- DTRS - Analog DB25 Pin-out Author: Patrick Killianey Keywords: DTRS analog DB25 DB-25 pin out Created Date: 8/2/1999 9:43:49 AM.
- A 10Base-T Cross-over swaps TD and RD.That is, swap pins 1 and 3 as well as pins 2 and 6, on one end of the cable. AT&T 258A wiring is comparable to T568B.
- RS 232 Pinouts for DB25 and DB9 Connectors Last updated; Save as PDF Pins commonly used for RS-232 (serial): Commonly used RS232 Null Modem Pin out for DB25 and DB 9 connectors.
Db9 To Db25 Pinout
COM Port Pinout and Configuration. RS232 manages communication flowing between the DTE and DCE using serial pinouts of either the DB9 or DB25 variety. These D-sub connectors can terminate with an RS232 female pinout or DB25 or DB9 male connector pins. Each pin in a 9 or 25 serial connector pinout has its own distinct function. CERRXIAN DB25 Breakout Board, DB25 Female D-SUB Connector to DB25 Screw Wiring Solderless Terminal Module Breakout PCB Board Kits with Plastic Case (F Black) 4.3 out of 5 stars 24 $9.84.
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Db25 Pinout Colors
- edited 2003-09-14 - 02:18:00Yea, It's call an OHM METER. Would that be CHINA STANDARD or KOREA STANDARD
or JAPAN STANDARD or CANADIAN STANDARD or USA STANDARD ?
Original MessageFrom: Christian Wentz [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:cwentz86@h...]
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Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] serial cable color coding
Would anyone happen to know of a resource that lists the standard serial
cable color coding?
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me would do them (at least the first 10) in resistor color code, black,
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> - edited 2003-09-14 - 02:28:00There is no general standard for wire color on PC cabling, with the
exception of marking pin 1 on ribbon cables, and the color of power
supply and fan wiring. Everything else is probably gonna be factory or
manufacturer specific.
What Jim is trying to say is that because everyone has a different color
code, you need to use an ohm meter or continuity tester to figure out
what color wire goes to which pin on the cable that you have.
> Yea, It's call an OHM METER. Would that be CHINA STANDARD or KOREA STANDARD
> or JAPAN STANDARD or CANADIAN STANDARD or USA STANDARD ?
> Would anyone happen to know of a resource that lists the standard serial
> cable color coding? - edited 2003-09-14 - 02:34:00It may depend on if they use the metric or US color code as well? <grin>
And don't get me started on the metric versus US electricity.
> I don't think there is a standard, but an old tech who used to work for
> me would do them (at least the first 10) in resistor color code, black,
> brown, red, etc.
> > Would anyone happen to know of a resource that lists the
> > standard serial
> > cable color coding? - edited 2003-09-14 - 04:15:00In a message dated 9/13/2003 6:27:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
alw@a... writes:
I don't think there is a standard, but an old tech who used to work for
me would do them (at least the first 10) in resistor color code, black,
brown, red, etc.
Al Williams
AWC
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I do the same, and think it is a good idea. If you are consistent with this
method, at least one knows number 1 through 10
[noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - edited 2003-09-14 - 05:03:00I do not think the color coding of cables is arbitrarily.
If you look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they follow
a color code scheme.
Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for almost
everythinng). - edited 2003-09-14 - 16:23:00If you are a telephone man, with a 50-pair telephone
cable, you'd better have a standard for what pair
of wires goes where. If you're installing a
50 foot 8-wire cable between a PC and a Modem, you have
a lot more lattitude.
If you are installing an 'RS-232' 'Standard' cable
(ansi standard RS-232, RS-232b, RS-232c) well:
You could install a DB25 with all pins connected,
all pins defined -- but I don't think they spec
the color.
You could install a DB25 with only the common 8
lines -- RX,TX, CTS,RTS, DCD,DTR,DTS, and Ground.
Oops, forgot 'RI' (ring) used by the PC as IRQ input.
Or you could do DB9. Or you could do RJ45 (like
DEC and Stallion did). Or you could do 'three-wire'
(TX, RX and Ground).
The point is: the RS-232 'Standard' came out so
early that it's evolved quite a lot, and been
used in MANY form factors. It's amazing
that it's as portable, and still works, as it is.
There IS a specification, but I really don't think
it calls out wire colors.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, 'Albert Catano'
<acatano2002@y...> wrote:
> I do not think the color coding of cables is arbitrarily.
> If you look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they
follow
> a color code scheme.
> Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for almost
> everythinng). - edited 2003-09-14 - 18:02:00Well I would think there would be a standard ! if nothing more than just pin
to color standard ! But I can't find anything. I have used wire color to pin
numbers, but can't find the chart, and it wasn't specific to rs232.
Larry Gaminde
Original MessageFrom: 'Bill Boyer' <daweasel@s...>
To: 'Basic Stamp List' <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: September 13, 2003 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] serial cable color coding
> There is no general standard for wire color on PC cabling, with the
> exception of marking pin 1 on ribbon cables, and the color of power
> supply and fan wiring. Everything else is probably gonna be factory or
> manufacturer specific.
>
> What Jim is trying to say is that because everyone has a different color
> code, you need to use an ohm meter or continuity tester to figure out
> what color wire goes to which pin on the cable that you have.
>
>
> > Yea, It's call an OHM METER. Would that be CHINA STANDARD or KOREA
STANDARD
> > or JAPAN STANDARD or CANADIAN STANDARD or USA STANDARD ?
>
> > Would anyone happen to know of a resource that lists the standard serial
> > cable color coding?
>
>
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> - edited 2003-09-15 - 02:00:00Now I lay me down to sleep
With a roll of cable at my feet
If I should die before I wake
White, Blue, Orange, Green, Brown, Slate.
Original MessageFrom: 'Allan Lane' <allan.lane@h...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:23 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
> If you are a telephone man, with a 50-pair telephone
> cable, you'd better have a standard for what pair
> of wires goes where. If you're installing a
> 50 foot 8-wire cable between a PC and a Modem, you have
> a lot more lattitude.
>
> If you are installing an 'RS-232' 'Standard' cable
> (ansi standard RS-232, RS-232b, RS-232c) well:
> You could install a DB25 with all pins connected,
> all pins defined -- but I don't think they spec
> the color.
>
> You could install a DB25 with only the common 8
> lines -- RX,TX, CTS,RTS, DCD,DTR,DTS, and Ground.
> Oops, forgot 'RI' (ring) used by the PC as IRQ input.
>
> Or you could do DB9. Or you could do RJ45 (like
> DEC and Stallion did). Or you could do 'three-wire'
> (TX, RX and Ground).
>
> The point is: the RS-232 'Standard' came out so
> early that it's evolved quite a lot, and been
> used in MANY form factors. It's amazing
> that it's as portable, and still works, as it is.
> There IS a specification, but I really don't think
> it calls out wire colors.
>
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, 'Albert Catano'
> <acatano2002@y...> wrote:
> > I do not think the color coding of cables is arbitrarily.
> > If you look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they
> follow
> > a color code scheme.
> > Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for almost
> > everythinng).
>
>
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> - edited 2003-09-15 - 02:01:00As Allan and others have said, there is not a standard for wire colors.
Each factory lot will use the same color sequence, but different
factories/lots will vary. We use a M-F DB9 cable for a commercial
device, by cutting the cable at one end, discarding the connector, and
wiring the cable to our circuits, using a few hundred per year. We try
to buy from the same place, but periodically check the colors and pins
to avoid circuit disasters. We like and use black cables from Jameco,
to match our black instrument cases.
Dennis
Original MessageFrom: Allan Lane [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:allan.lane@h...]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:24 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
If you are a telephone man, with a 50-pair telephone
cable, you'd better have a standard for what pair
of wires goes where. If you're installing a
50 foot 8-wire cable between a PC and a Modem, you have
a lot more lattitude.
If you are installing an 'RS-232' 'Standard' cable
(ansi standard RS-232, RS-232b, RS-232c) well:
You could install a DB25 with all pins connected,
all pins defined -- but I don't think they spec
the color.
You could install a DB25 with only the common 8
lines -- RX,TX, CTS,RTS, DCD,DTR,DTS, and Ground.
Oops, forgot 'RI' (ring) used by the PC as IRQ input.
Or you could do DB9. Or you could do RJ45 (like
DEC and Stallion did). Or you could do 'three-wire'
(TX, RX and Ground).
The point is: the RS-232 'Standard' came out so
early that it's evolved quite a lot, and been
used in MANY form factors. It's amazing
that it's as portable, and still works, as it is.
There IS a specification, but I really don't think
it calls out wire colors.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, 'Albert Catano'
<acatano2002@y...> wrote:
> I do not think the color coding of cables is arbitrarily.
> If you look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they
follow
> a color code scheme.
> Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for almost
> everythinng).
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - edited 2003-09-15 - 02:31:00Speaking of that, does anyone still make a cable with removeable shells?
Most everything I see has molded ends, which means you have to chop off
one end and put on a fresh connector if you need to make a custom cable.
> As Allan and others have said, there is not a standard for wire colors.
> Each factory lot will use the same color sequence, but different
> factories/lots will vary. We use a M-F DB9 cable for a commercial
> device, by cutting the cable at one end, discarding the connector, and
> wiring the cable to our circuits, using a few hundred per year. We try
> to buy from the same place, but periodically check the colors and pins
> to avoid circuit disasters. We like and use black cables from Jameco,
> to match our black instrument cases. - edited 2003-09-15 - 16:08:00Bad -- Black -- 0
boys -- Brown -- 1
race -- Red -- 2
our -- Orange -- 3
young -- Yellow -- 4
girls -- Green -- 5
behind -- Blue -- 6
victory -- Violet -- 7
garden -- Gray -- 8
walls -- White -- 9
Above is a non-bawdy version of the resistor
numbering color sequence, which DOES NOT apply
(necessarily) to RS-232. ('Bad boys rape our
young girls, but violet gives willingly' is
the 'PG-13' version)
Note that CAT-5 cable has Orange/Orange-Stripe,
Blue/Blue-Stripe, Green/Green-Stripe,
Brown/Brown-Stripe. This CAN be used for
RS-232 also.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, 'Stephen H Chapman'
<chapman@t...> wrote:
> Now I lay me down to sleep
> With a roll of cable at my feet
> If I should die before I wake
> White, Blue, Orange, Green, Brown, Slate.
>
>Original Message> From: 'Allan Lane' <allan.lane@h...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:23 AM
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
>
>
> > If you are a telephone man, with a 50-pair telephone
> > cable, you'd better have a standard for what pair
> > of wires goes where. If you're installing a
> > 50 foot 8-wire cable between a PC and a Modem, you have
> > a lot more lattitude.
> >
> > If you are installing an 'RS-232' 'Standard' cable
> > (ansi standard RS-232, RS-232b, RS-232c) well:
> > You could install a DB25 with all pins connected,
> > all pins defined -- but I don't think they spec
> > the color.
> >
> > You could install a DB25 with only the common 8
> > lines -- RX,TX, CTS,RTS, DCD,DTR,DTS, and Ground.
> > Oops, forgot 'RI' (ring) used by the PC as IRQ input.
> >
> > Or you could do DB9. Or you could do RJ45 (like
> > DEC and Stallion did). Or you could do 'three-wire'
> > (TX, RX and Ground).
> >
> > The point is: the RS-232 'Standard' came out so
> > early that it's evolved quite a lot, and been
> > used in MANY form factors. It's amazing
> > that it's as portable, and still works, as it is.
> > There IS a specification, but I really don't think
> > it calls out wire colors.
> >
> >
> > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, 'Albert Catano'
> > <acatano2002@y...> wrote:
> > > I do not think the color coding of cables is arbitrarily.
> > > If you look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they
> > follow
> > > a color code scheme.
> > > Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for
almost
> > > everythinng).
> >
> >
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> > - edited 2003-09-15 - 18:31:00I collect these.
There are many variations on the Bad boys... I have also heard Bad Beer
Rots Our Young Guts but Vodka Goes Well.
Bad Betty runs over your garden but Violet Gray won't
Billy Brown Revives On Your Gin, But Values Good Whisky
Better Be Ready, Or Your Great Big Venture Goes West
Black Beetles Running On Your Garden Bring Very Good Weather
The one about batman is unrepeatable but the clean version is
Batman Bests Robin On Yonder Gotham Bridge; Very Good, Will Get
Superman Next
Al Williams
AWC
* Add floating point math to your Stamp program:
http://www.al-williams.com/pak1.htm
>Original Message> From: Allan Lane [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:allan.lane@h...]
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:09 AM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
>
>
> Bad -- Black -- 0
> boys -- Brown -- 1
> race -- Red -- 2
> our -- Orange -- 3
> young -- Yellow -- 4
> girls -- Green -- 5
> behind -- Blue -- 6
> victory -- Violet -- 7
> garden -- Gray -- 8
> walls -- White -- 9
>
> Above is a non-bawdy version of the resistor
> numbering color sequence, which DOES NOT apply
> (necessarily) to RS-232. ('Bad boys rape our
> young girls, but violet gives willingly' is
> the 'PG-13' version)
>
> Note that CAT-5 cable has Orange/Orange-Stripe,
> Blue/Blue-Stripe, Green/Green-Stripe,
> Brown/Brown-Stripe. This CAN be used for
> RS-232 also.
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, 'Stephen H Chapman'
> <chapman@t...> wrote:
> > Now I lay me down to sleep
> > With a roll of cable at my feet
> > If I should die before I wake
> > White, Blue, Orange, Green, Brown, Slate.
> >
> >Original Message> > From: 'Allan Lane' <allan.lane@h...>
> > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:23 AM
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
> >
> >
> > > If you are a telephone man, with a 50-pair telephone
> > > cable, you'd better have a standard for what pair
> > > of wires goes where. If you're installing a
> > > 50 foot 8-wire cable between a PC and a Modem, you have
> > > a lot more lattitude.
> > >
> > > If you are installing an 'RS-232' 'Standard' cable
> > > (ansi standard RS-232, RS-232b, RS-232c) well:
> > > You could install a DB25 with all pins connected,
> > > all pins defined -- but I don't think they spec
> > > the color.
> > >
> > > You could install a DB25 with only the common 8
> > > lines -- RX,TX, CTS,RTS, DCD,DTR,DTS, and Ground.
> > > Oops, forgot 'RI' (ring) used by the PC as IRQ input.
> > >
> > > Or you could do DB9. Or you could do RJ45 (like
> > > DEC and Stallion did). Or you could do 'three-wire'
> > > (TX, RX and Ground).
> > >
> > > The point is: the RS-232 'Standard' came out so
> > > early that it's evolved quite a lot, and been
> > > used in MANY form factors. It's amazing
> > > that it's as portable, and still works, as it is.
> > > There IS a specification, but I really don't think
> > > it calls out wire colors.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, 'Albert Catano'
> > > <acatano2002@y...> wrote:
> > > > I do not think the color coding of cables is
> arbitrarily. If you
> > > > look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they
> > > follow
> > > > a color code scheme.
> > > > Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for
> almost
> > > > everythinng).
> > >
> > >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - edited 2003-09-15 - 18:42:00Could you send me the R or X versions off list.
Larry Gaminde
Original MessageFrom: 'Al Williams' <alw@a...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: September 15, 2003 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
> I collect these.
>
> There are many variations on the Bad boys... I have also heard Bad Beer
> Rots Our Young Guts but Vodka Goes Well.
>
> Bad Betty runs over your garden but Violet Gray won't
>
> Billy Brown Revives On Your Gin, But Values Good Whisky
>
> Better Be Ready, Or Your Great Big Venture Goes West
>
> Black Beetles Running On Your Garden Bring Very Good Weather
>
> The one about batman is unrepeatable but the clean version is
> Batman Bests Robin On Yonder Gotham Bridge; Very Good, Will Get
> Superman Next
>
> Al Williams
> AWC
> * Add floating point math to your Stamp program:
> http://www.al-williams.com/pak1.htm
>
>
> >Original Message> > From: Allan Lane [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:allan.lane@h...]
> > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:09 AM
> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
> >
> >
> > Bad -- Black -- 0
> > boys -- Brown -- 1
> > race -- Red -- 2
> > our -- Orange -- 3
> > young -- Yellow -- 4
> > girls -- Green -- 5
> > behind -- Blue -- 6
> > victory -- Violet -- 7
> > garden -- Gray -- 8
> > walls -- White -- 9
> >
> > Above is a non-bawdy version of the resistor
> > numbering color sequence, which DOES NOT apply
> > (necessarily) to RS-232. ('Bad boys rape our
> > young girls, but violet gives willingly' is
> > the 'PG-13' version)
> >
> > Note that CAT-5 cable has Orange/Orange-Stripe,
> > Blue/Blue-Stripe, Green/Green-Stripe,
> > Brown/Brown-Stripe. This CAN be used for
> > RS-232 also.
> >
> > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, 'Stephen H Chapman'
> > <chapman@t...> wrote:
> > > Now I lay me down to sleep
> > > With a roll of cable at my feet
> > > If I should die before I wake
> > > White, Blue, Orange, Green, Brown, Slate.
> > >
> > >Original Message> > > From: 'Allan Lane' <allan.lane@h...>
> > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:23 AM
> > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: serial cable color coding
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you are a telephone man, with a 50-pair telephone
> > > > cable, you'd better have a standard for what pair
> > > > of wires goes where. If you're installing a
> > > > 50 foot 8-wire cable between a PC and a Modem, you have
> > > > a lot more lattitude.
> > > >
> > > > If you are installing an 'RS-232' 'Standard' cable
> > > > (ansi standard RS-232, RS-232b, RS-232c) well:
> > > > You could install a DB25 with all pins connected,
> > > > all pins defined -- but I don't think they spec
> > > > the color.
> > > >
> > > > You could install a DB25 with only the common 8
> > > > lines -- RX,TX, CTS,RTS, DCD,DTR,DTS, and Ground.
> > > > Oops, forgot 'RI' (ring) used by the PC as IRQ input.
> > > >
> > > > Or you could do DB9. Or you could do RJ45 (like
> > > > DEC and Stallion did). Or you could do 'three-wire'
> > > > (TX, RX and Ground).
> > > >
> > > > The point is: the RS-232 'Standard' came out so
> > > > early that it's evolved quite a lot, and been
> > > > used in MANY form factors. It's amazing
> > > > that it's as portable, and still works, as it is.
> > > > There IS a specification, but I really don't think
> > > > it calls out wire colors.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, 'Albert Catano'
> > > > <acatano2002@y...> wrote:
> > > > > I do not think the color coding of cables is
> > arbitrarily. If you
> > > > > look a telephoneman splicing hundreds of wires , they
> > > > follow
> > > > > a color code scheme.
> > > > > Perhaps there is an ANSI standard (they have standards for
> > almost
> > > > > everythinng).
> > > >
> > > >
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> - edited 2003-09-16 - 01:05:00Just remember, B is blue, while black is K on alot of diagrams.
> I collect these.
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> There are many variations on the Bad boys... I have also heard Bad Beer
> Rots Our Young Guts but Vodka Goes Well.
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> Bad Betty runs over your garden but Violet Gray won't
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> Billy Brown Revives On Your Gin, But Values Good Whisky
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> Better Be Ready, Or Your Great Big Venture Goes West
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> Black Beetles Running On Your Garden Bring Very Good Weather
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> The one about batman is unrepeatable but the clean version is
> Batman Bests Robin On Yonder Gotham Bridge; Very Good, Will Get
> Superman Next